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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. street map altdorf
« Reply #100 on: October 23, 2015, 01:32:42 PM »
New Nagash model is still an improvement over the old Nagash model, but overall I liked Nagash best, when he was a looming threat, always on the horizion, instead of being a huge cannon magnet.
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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. street map altdorf
« Reply #101 on: October 23, 2015, 08:36:55 PM »
I agree.

Why is Nagash inhumanly big? is his spirit dwelling inside a Ushabti? Or did he belong a lean Ogre race?

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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. My satnav is broken
« Reply #102 on: November 25, 2015, 12:10:15 AM »
Lost in the Empire. Where is Heldenhame Keep. Directions please.

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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. My satnav is broken
« Reply #103 on: November 25, 2015, 07:00:59 AM »
Heldenhame Keep , the Chapter house of the Order of Sigmar's Blood is described as the greatest fortress of Talabecland. However, in the End Times, it is located in Stirland,  to the east of the capital Wurtbad, on the Sylvanian border.
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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. My satnav is broken
« Reply #104 on: November 25, 2015, 12:59:51 PM »
There never was great love between Talabecland and Stirland. So, during the turmoil of the ET, Stirland backstabbed Talabecland for the last time, taking the keep.  :icon_razz:

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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. My satnav is broken
« Reply #105 on: November 25, 2015, 01:10:49 PM »
In that case, they did not just take the keep - they took it with them.
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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. My satnav is broken
« Reply #106 on: November 25, 2015, 01:59:05 PM »
Warhammer maps have always been a bit..malleable.

For a start Heldenhame I thought was new for the End Times, as was Heffengen and Alderfen, though that could just be my memory of every town mentioned in Sigmar's Heirs and so on not being that good.   I've not set many WFRP adventures in that part of the Empire, so I never did learn the layout.
Averheim certainly went from big provincial town to one of the Great citiies of the Empire.   And not just because the othere were all destroyed, they made it out like it was always one of them.

Delberz has moved all over Middenland from near the Talabec, to near Middenheim, and anywhere in between.

Herzig became Hergig

The Reik in most instances from Altdorf to Marienburg is sailable by the navy's biggest ships including seagoing ships.  Then in The End Times Glottkin - particulary the Fall of Altdorf novel there is a massive waterfall at Carroburg.

I guess it won't be a problem with the Mortal Realms
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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. My satnav is broken
« Reply #107 on: November 25, 2015, 10:12:15 PM »
Malleable? Indeed, but in the sense that such outrages deserve the Malleus Maleficarum. I think, we have already established that the writers of the End Times did not bother about even a pretence of fluff consistency.

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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. My satnav is broken
« Reply #108 on: November 25, 2015, 11:22:40 PM »
No wonder I'm lost if it's in 2 regions at the same time. It does not appear on any of Gitzmans maps, and as pointed out ET map does not make sense and not to any scale either. Mr Reynolds in the return of Nagash calls it Heldenhame Keep, Talabecland. Wikki says its a large vibrent town thanks to the wealth of the Knights of Sigmars Blood. In ET some of the defenders are said to be from Talabheim and Talabeclanders.
Anyone care to play God or stick a pin in a map and glue this place to one spot.

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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. My satnav is broken
« Reply #109 on: November 26, 2015, 03:13:45 PM »
Malleable? Indeed, but in the sense that such outrages deserve the Malleus Maleficarum. I think, we have already established that the writers of the End Times did not bother about even a pretence of fluff consistency.

The writer. The You-Know-Who. And no, they did not. They've just flushed the fluff down the toilet, after wiping their asses with it.
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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. My satnav is broken
« Reply #110 on: November 26, 2015, 11:31:09 PM »
Unfortunately, that probably gave them a clean and satisfied feeling, precisely because it was so fluffy. That said, I am told that even the fluffiest material can "do everything from irritate your privates to actually cut you down there." There is always hope, I guess...
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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. My satnav is broken
« Reply #111 on: November 27, 2015, 01:45:18 PM »
You know, I have to spit some bile on the topic of Warhammer and it has nothing to do with the latest happenings in the world.

You know how Sigmar is sometimes called Sigmar Heldenhammer? And that this is translated as Hammer of Goblins? That infuriates me to no end. Helden means Heroes, not Goblins. it just...AAARGH.
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« Reply #112 on: November 27, 2015, 02:46:28 PM »
I already wondered, whether "Heldenhame" is not an erroneous spelling of "Heldenheim."
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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. My satnav is broken
« Reply #113 on: November 27, 2015, 06:32:05 PM »
Well, there is also hiem, which is Frisian for property, more or less.

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α. eOE haam, OE–ME (early or north.) ham, ME am, ME heem (north.), ME hem (north.), ME–16 hame (chiefly north.), 15 heme (north.); Eng. regional (north.) 16 18– heam, 17–18 heame, 18 haam, 18– hame, 18– heaum, 18– heeam, 18– heyem, 18– hiam, 18– hyem, 18– yam, 18– yem; also Sc. pre-17 haime, pre-17 ham, pre-17 haym, pre-17 hayme, pre-17 heim, pre-17 heime, pre-17 17– hame, pre-17 18 haim, pre-17 (18– Shetland) haem, pre-17 (19– Shetland) hem, 17 haam, 18– heame, 18– heem (Orkney and Shetland), 19– hehym (south.), 19– heyime (south.), 19– him (Shetland), 19– hyim (south.), 19– hyimm (south.); Irish English (north.) 19– hame; Irish English (Wexford) 18 hime, 18 hyme.

β. eME heom (perh. transmission error), ME hoom, ME howm, ME hume, ME om, ME (17– regional) hum, ME–16 hoome, ME–16 (17 Eng. regional (Lancs.)) whom, ME–16 (17– Eng. regional (west midl. and south-west.)) whome, ME–16 (18– Eng. regional (south-west.)) hom, ME– home, 15 howme, 15 wom, 15 (18– Eng. regional (north.)) hoam, 15 (18– Eng. regional (north.)) hoame, 16 whoame; Eng. regional 17– hwome (south-west.), 17– whum (west midl. and south-west.), 18 hoom (Essex), 18– hooam (north. and Isle of Wight), 18– hwom (Cheshire), 18– hwum (south-west.), 18– whoam (south-west.); U.S. regional 19– hume (in African-American usage).
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Etymology:  Cognate with Old Frisian hēm a person's house or abode, homestead, dwelling (West Frisian hiem yard, farmyard), Old Dutch heim homestead, dwelling (in place names and compounds; Middle Dutch heem , heim , Dutch (now rare) heem homestead, dwelling, a person's house or abode, the place where a person lives or was raised), Old Saxon hēm house (Middle Low German hēm a person's house or abode, the place where a person lives or was raised, native country, homeland), Middle High German heim abode, residence, homestead, dwelling (German Heim ; the sense ‘native country, homeland’ is expressed by Heimat (see Urheimat n.)), early Scandinavian (runic: Sweden) aimi (dative singular), em (accusative singular), (runic: Denmark) him- (in compounds) homestead, abode, world, Old Icelandic heimr dwelling, abode (chiefly in compounds denoting mythological parts of the universe, e.g. Jǫtunheimr , lit. ‘abode of giants’, Niflheimr , lit. ‘abode of mist’), (in compounds) village, (more usually) earth, world, universe (with the semantic development, compare Russian mir , which is attested from an early date in the senses ‘community, commune’ and ‘world’: see mir n.2, Mir n.4), Old Swedish hēm , heem a person's house or abode (Swedish hem ), Old Danish hiem , hēm a person's house or abode (Danish hjem ), also (with different suffixes and different (feminine) gender) Old High German heima abode, residence, homestead, dwelling, native country, homeland, Gothic haims village; further etymology uncertain and disputed: perhaps < the same Indo-European base as Early Irish cóim , Welsh cu beloved, dear, Lithuanian šeima family, kin, Latvian saime occupants of a homestead collectively, Russian Church Slavonic sěm′ person, Old Russian sěm′ja family (Russian sem′ja ), (with added suffix) Old Prussian seimīns , Lithuanian šeimyna occupants of a homestead collectively, all formations with -m -suffix < the same Indo-European base as ancient Greek κεῖσθαι to lie, classical Latin cīvis citizen (see civic adj.), and the first element of the Germanic compounds cited at hird n. (ancient Greek κώμη village (see Comarch n.) is probably unrelated, although it has sometimes been regarded as showing a cognate with different ablaut grade); perhaps further related to Old Prussian caymis village, Lithuanian kiemas farmyard, farm, homestead, village, kaimas village, rural (as opposed to urban) area, Latvian ciems occupants of a homestead collectively, homestead, village, although the nature of the relationship is uncertain.
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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. My satnav is broken
« Reply #114 on: November 27, 2015, 08:07:21 PM »
If we presume it's a mis-spelling, where is Heldenheim on the Empire maps?

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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. My satnav is broken
« Reply #115 on: November 27, 2015, 11:40:01 PM »
Oh, I did not mean necessarily that there was actually a Heldenheim in the Empire. That said, it does turn out that the German version of the Lexicanum does not have Heldenhame, but Heldenheim, which is identified as a city of the Empire in Stirland (referring to the Nagash and Glottkin books). 
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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. My satnav is broken
« Reply #116 on: November 28, 2015, 05:59:33 PM »
The Warhammer Wikipedia says of the order of Sigmar's Blood: "Their Chapter House, Heldenhame Keep, is the grandest fortress in Talabecland."
The fanmade Kalevala WFRP2 Career Expansion apparently tries to merge the conflicting information: "[Heldenhame] Keep is located on the Stirland - Talabecland border area, but considered to be Talabecland side. It is also close to Sylvania guarding the dark realm." But that still does not fit the ET map.
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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. My satnav is broken
« Reply #117 on: November 28, 2015, 07:24:03 PM »
The Warhammer Wikipedia says of the order of Sigmar's Blood: "Their Chapter House, Heldenhame Keep, is the grandest fortress in Talabecland."
The fanmade Kalevala WFRP2 Career Expansion apparently tries to merge the conflicting information: "[Heldenhame] Keep is located on the Stirland - Talabecland border area, but considered to be Talabecland side. It is also close to Sylvania guarding the dark realm." But that still does not fit the ET map.

Then ignore the ET map, since the whole ET is a bad joke anyway.
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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. My satnav is broken
« Reply #118 on: November 28, 2015, 09:27:29 PM »
I now went through the excruciating trouble of reading Nagash. And, my goodness, what a gash it is. As far as I can tell, all information on Heldenhame comes from ET. The Warhammer Wikiquote (grandest fortress of Talabecland) is from Nagash p. 120. The fact that Talabheim is providing troops to the Keep would make sense as a left-over of the War of Succession. However, the map in the same book puts it in firmly in Stirland.
So, just ignore Heldenhame altogether.
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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. My satnav is broken
« Reply #119 on: November 30, 2015, 10:42:53 PM »
Found an old map of Sylvania and it shows a large town of Krugenheim just north of Mordheim and on the Talabecland side of the River Stir. could Heldenheim Keep be in this city. Could easily see the bone wall surrounding Sylvania from there, and puts it into the correct region.

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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. Heldenhame
« Reply #120 on: November 30, 2015, 11:58:46 PM »
Not really. Heim (i.e. home) is a common suffix for the name of a settlement. As said before, all the references to Heldenhame I could find come from ET. According to Nagash, you have Heldenhame keep and a city of the same name, which had grown around the keep.
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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. Heldenhame
« Reply #121 on: December 01, 2015, 12:23:26 AM »
The Nagash ET book would have this on the western side of Hundsheimerwald on the River Melk. However there aint nuffin their.

Knightly orders book does not give details of the Orders chapterhouse. So yet again another ET mess. Again cannot find any details of this place prior to ET. So I would be happy to except the the Keep has a different name from the town that has grown up around it.

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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. Heldenhame
« Reply #122 on: December 01, 2015, 12:32:23 AM »
If you discard ET, you can locate Heldenhame anywhere you like. However, if it is just to have a location for the Chapter House of the Order of Sigmar's Blood, you do not have to retain the name Heldenhame either.
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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. Perry miniatures
« Reply #123 on: December 18, 2015, 12:10:52 AM »
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Re: Questions from a village wantwit. Castle windlass wanted
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In need for Chapter House Gate.
Do anyone know of a manufacturer of 28mm windlass control for a portcullis or failing that any good pictures. Nothing complicated please, remember it's to my modelling standards.