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It was pointed out to me recently that the rules don't state that detachments stop being detachments if they are joined by a hero.   This used to be the case but I can't find anything to state that it still is.

Got some more test data fresh from the forges. This experiment builds on the previous failures and actually feels like it might be moving in the right direction. Compared to the previous it felt like it could actually win a game, albeit being a bit inconsistent

Played against a very good errantry list which also happens to be the perfect counter to this list and while it ended as a lose it could have been a major empire victory at several points. I probably made 1 mistake which was not playing around the horn better, but otherwise it came down to some outrageous luck. I was counting and turn 1 a lone he made 10/10 6++ lady saves. I don’t usually blame dice because it’s all just variance but this time felt a bit exceptional.

I’ve got 3 new ideas to test from this one which I will report back on soon, but it feels like at least some progress to something interesting for empire

The Empire of Man - wtf - [2000pts]

# Main Force [2000pts]

## Characters [867pts]
Captain of the Empire [130pts]: Hand Weapon, Great Weapon, Demigryph, Barding, Hand Weapon, Wicked Claws, Full Plate Armour, Battle Standard Bearer
Engineers [45pts]:
• 1x Empire Engineer [45pts]: Hand Weapon
General of the Empire [292pts]: Hand Weapon, Shield, Lance, Imperial Griffon, Heavy Armour, Serrated Maw, Wicked Claws, Full Plate Armour, General, Talisman Of Protection
Wizard Lord [400pts]: Hand Weapon, Wizard Level 4, Dark Magic, Imperial Griffon, Heavy Armour, Serrated Maw, Wicked Claws, Lore Familiar, Sword of Might, The White Cloak

## Core [501pts]
Empire Archers [56pts]:
• 7x Archer [8pts]: Hand Weapon, Warbow, Scouts
2x State Missile Troops [70pts]:
• 10x State Missile Trooper [7pts]: Hand Weapon, Crossbow
  • Regimental Unit: Veteran State Troops
Veteran State Troops [305pts]:
• 24x Veteran State Trooper [10pts]: Hand Weapon, Light Armour, Drilled, Shield, Halberd
• 1x Sergeant [5pts]
• 1x Standard Bearer [55pts]: Banner of Iron Resolve
• 1x Musician [5pts]
  • Detachment: State Missile Troops[1], State Missile Troops[2]

## Special [632pts]
2x Demigryph Knights [126pts]:
• 2x Demigryph Knight [63pts]: Demigryph, Barding, Hand Weapon, Wicked Claws, Hand Weapon, Shield, Full Plate Armour, Lance
4x Mortars [95pts]:
• 1x Mortar [95pts]: Gun Crew, Hand Weapon, Mortar

Great job.
I'd use them as a big unit. They'd crush smaller units underfoot

Thanks! It's tempting because our knights are fairly cheap and I don't have a STank or big unit of Flagellants (yet..?)

Army shoot is a great idea. I've not had them all out at the same time yet so it'll be interesting when I do... I've got an orange paint now so I need to go back and highlight most of my reds again. Also want to varnish everything before I venture out onto the battlefield...

This is where the drop from d6 to d3+1 really hurts.

Yeah, I've also concluded 15" spells aren't very good. There is a huge difference between 18" spells and 15" spells, because a lot of powerful units have max charge declaration ranges in between those values.

Especially if it's for a hex or magic missile or something else that can't be cast into combat, a 15" spell almost always seems to go from 'out of range, can't reach them' to 'in melee' in a single turn.  Hex spells are harder to use than magic missiles, as magic missiles kill on their own, but hex spells need to be cast one turn before the enemy is in combat, which can be hard to manage.