Topic: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)

[Finlay]

Julian doesnt plan on arresting her in front of all 30 of her bilos

[commandant]

Where does he plan on arresting her and how does he plan on getting her out of her fortress and how does he plan on explaining where the two guards she sent to guard Anders are?

[rufus sparkfire]

Is there any way to see if the guard is lying?

Like what?

[Finlay]

he's a bit fuzzy on the fine details, but it sure as hell beats "stand in a timepause in a cell talking to a nobody guard because mortus cant think of a plan"

She most likely knows we are hostile, and wont let us leave.

there are 2 options.

1. confront annalise. Julian doesnt see how "confront annalise to the count" is any different than arresting her. If when we go backupstairs she doesnt have loads of people around, he's fine letting someone try to talk her down before we drop the hammer. I think we can do this in such a way we dont end up fighting 30 people at once.
2. sort out these 2 guards then sneak into the drakwald forest in the middle of the night.



How far away is carroburg?

[commandant]

Does he seem nervious?

Does he seem like he is parroting a learnt line?

Does he seem scoffing?

Does he seem surprised?

Does he seem tired and resigned like he's been through this before?

Anything in his behaviour that would suggest his words are hiding something?

[commandant]

To be fair only Heinrich has thought of a plan and his is kill everybody.

I don't think Annalisa has reason to think that everybody is hostile to her claim.   If she does then as soon as the party left to question Anders she would have marshelled all of her guys.   Therefore in order to get out of the fortess without a battle [against likely 30 guys] the party needs Annalisa to believe that they are not hostile. 

There is also the question of whether or not she is the rightful countess.   Julian believes not, Admund also believes not??   Heinrich wants to kill everybody so I assume he also believes not.   Mortus doesn't care, she just wants to avoid a bloodbath.   Ulrun?

Also Rufus how big is this keep thing, could Mortus cast fireball inside without hitting members of the party because if [as I believe] she can't her combat ability drops to nearly zero.   In which case it would be Julian, heinrich, Admund and Ulrun [with a very small amount of support from Mortus' sleep spell] against 30 guys.   That doesn't sound like good odds.

Pleas forgive me if I think avoiding a Total Party Wipeout is worth investing some time in.

[rufus sparkfire]

Time spiral: the guard didn't say that.

[Finlay]

we've been talking about it for 2 days!

come up with a plan

[commandant]

Time spiral: the guard didn't say that.

While that solves the "Is she the rightful countess thing?" or at least changes it slightly it doesn't deal with the bloodbath problem which is the real problem.

we've been talking about it for 2 days!

come up with a plan

I am trying to think of one.   It is kind of difficult, as shown by the fact that nobody has come up with anything better than charge forward and be killed yet or hope the person who thinks the party is hostile to her is very very stupid.

I think the party is in a fairly serious problem right now.   

[Finlay]

Have we done anything unexpected that rufus didn’t want us to do?

Will rufus intentionally lead us into a situation where its overwhelmingly likely we get TPW?

The answer to both questions is no, so let’s move on!

[commandant]

Its only overwhelmingly like that we get TPW if we try to fight our way out and I firmly believe that Rufus is able to come up with a situtation where some answer other than brute force is needed to solve it.

Saying "lets just apply the brute force method again" seems like it will get the party killed.

[rufus sparkfire]

Carroburg is about two hundred miles away, by the way.

[Finlay]

So the party cannot escort them back to carroburg.
Therefore us saying “why don’t you go to carroburg and talk to the elector count, with the count” will actually = “why don’t you willingly give yourself up to those hunting you”

In fact, why would she bother wanting to talk to the EC when shes already told us how corrupt it is?

If we use a mixture of threat, bribes, cajoling and force we can manufacture the situation so we don’t have to fight all 30 at once.

It’s the only option, as we cant go to the drakwald in the night.

[rufus sparkfire]

Julian rushes off to the toilet, and searches it for hans

I'm not sure why, but I find this post hilarious!

[commandant]

The party could go to Carroburg and escort Annalisa and the Count there.

Admittedly it is true that if she thinks the Elector Count is corrupt then it is unlikely she'll accept that answer.

[rufus sparkfire]

It's 200 miles away!

[Cannonofdoom]

Heinrich sees a liar in charge of 30 odd bandits who tried to bomb an inn with no concern for tge innocents that could be harmed. He was willing to listen, but hasn't heard anything that justifies her actions. He will not accept a plan that does not involve justice for Annalisa.

[Finlay]

Julian is not going 200 miles to carroburg with a lying terrorist, so no the party cant go there.

Also, she doesn’t think he’s corrupt, she’s lied that he is to convince people she’s rightful.

who else in the party has strike to stun?

[rufus sparkfire]

who else in the party has strike to stun?

Heinrich, Julian, Admund.

[Karl Voss of Averland]

Double team stunner!

Last time I struck-to-stun, I did 20 wounds to Gluckstien.

[rufus sparkfire]

This guy got lucky! Admund didn't have to try to stun him.

[Karl Voss of Averland]

Julian & Admund tag teamed that poor sucka!

[Mogsam]

I should probably have pretended to be the prisoner and worked out the truth. Too late!

[rufus sparkfire]

I should probably have pretended to be the prisoner and worked out the truth. Too late!

That's a great idea!

But yes, sadly too late.

[commandant]

Murder everybody in the building it is so.