Author Topic: 40K (Read 305565 times)

Aldaris · « **Reply #950 on:** March 17, 2011, 08:15:48 AM »

Quote from: PhillyT on March 17, 2011, 01:20:22 AM

What isthe basic cost on the grey knight squad? Having them all having power weapons is nasty!

Basic Grey Knight Strike Squad (9 Troopers and a Sarge) costs 40 Empire halberdiers. And they have Force swords as standard, not just power. Meaning that when they chose to use their Psy for that, every wound they cause is instant death.

Individual troopers can upgrade to Halberds (+2 I), Demonhammers (like a TH), Falchions (like Lightning claws) or a Warding Stave (2++ in cc for a hefty price); although the last option is limited to one per squad as far as I know. All of those are Force weapons with Demonbane.

McKnight · « **Reply #951 on:** March 17, 2011, 10:31:42 AM »

Actually, the falchions only add +1 attack. No reroll.

Thats not a bad list Philly, do the battlewagons have some good guns? Im not sure that i would fear it that much.
There arent that many units in the army, so the GK should be able to contain it.
Purifiers would be excellent to take the charge from the orks, so would the psychotroke grenades or rad grenades. Oh and Defensive grenades

The lootas could proove troublesome with their good range and firepower.
I havent thought of any unit in the GK that can handle arty units that sit around in the back.

And what is up with the site? XD Its wierd.

phillyt · « **Reply #952 on:** March 17, 2011, 10:41:15 AM »

Against grey knights I would probably pull within 18 and drop 120 s4 shoota rounds off a turn. One a unit was softened some I would assault.

Wagons have two big shoota and a deff rolla.

That unit seems really cheap for all having force weapons...

Aldaris · « **Reply #953 on:** March 17, 2011, 11:05:27 AM »

Quote from: PhillyT on March 17, 2011, 10:41:15 AM

That unit seems really cheap for all having force weapons...

It balances out I think - they have been reduced to normal Marine stats to compensate. They do have Psi powers (one that can mess with deepstrikers in their vicinity, and one that can raise their S by +1), but they can only use one of those OR their force weapons per turn. Plus if they take a special or heavy, they trade in their Stormbolter AND their force weapon.

And "really cheap" is relative - a unit of 10 with 2 Psicannons, Psybolt ammo (which raises the S of their Stormbolters to 5) and a Mastercrafted Demonhammer for the Justicar, riding in a Rhino costs almost 300 points. A good unit and an awesome troops choice to be sure, but you're not going to have a big army.

@ McKnight: for dealing with arty stuff in the backfield I would consider orbital strikes, Deepstrikers or flankers.

McKnight · « **Reply #954 on:** March 17, 2011, 11:08:34 AM »

Sounds like a good strategy. Im used to my ork friend just plunging into combat right away. But your tactic scares my grey knights, dont know how to beat that, other than trying to open your cans.

Nah the price is okay philly. Its actually rare (in my subjective opinion) that force weapons are useful! There arent that many multiwound models. And you would also have to choose between +1 strength or force weapon psychic thingy each assault phase.

Im thinking about dropping the henchmen warband and adding a vindicare assasin instead.

Fandir Nightshade · « **Reply #955 on:** March 17, 2011, 11:24:50 AM »

Why not a Callidus? (are there new rules for the Assassins?)

phillyt · « **Reply #956 on:** March 17, 2011, 11:39:44 AM »

My prespective is skewed. In my parts power weapons are king since I have 3 marine, 2 chaos marines, 2 necrons, a tyranid, an ig, and me. Lots of 3 plus.

Fandir Nightshade · « **Reply #957 on:** March 17, 2011, 11:42:34 AM »

power weapons are no force weapons are no might weapons are no strength weapons are no ...........

phillyt · « **Reply #958 on:** March 17, 2011, 11:47:18 AM »

Wait, force weapons are power weapons though.

Fandir Nightshade · « **Reply #959 on:** March 17, 2011, 11:52:31 AM »

How should I know I only play IG nothing in the game ever reaches close combat..the power swords/force weapons are just for shaking around and pointing where my bodybags should go.

http://www.monkeyboobies.com/gallery/d/219-1/drive+me+closer_+i+want+to+hit+them+with+my+sword.png

phillyt · « **Reply #960 on:** March 17, 2011, 11:55:59 AM »

I lost a nob to a primaris once!

Fandir Nightshade · « **Reply #961 on:** March 17, 2011, 11:59:11 AM »

What happened to the primaris after this?

McKnight · « **Reply #962 on:** March 17, 2011, 12:02:09 PM »

Quote from: Fandir Nightshade on March 17, 2011, 11:24:50 AM

Why not a Callidus? (are there new rules for the Assassins?)

The Callidus and vindicare are both pretty damn awesome!
But the callidus only adds more of what i already have, anti infantry stuff. The vindicare is a force multiplier. It can pick out commissars, nobs and best of all, it is fearsome in its antitank properties which is what I miss in the army.

Yea Philly, I have the same problem here in Denmark. Atleast 75% of the players in my city plays some kind of power armour army. Kinda annoying, but I cant complain since i have two myself

phillyt · « **Reply #963 on:** March 17, 2011, 12:08:31 PM »

Quote from: Fandir Nightshade on March 17, 2011, 11:59:11 AM

What happened to the primaris after this?

He did become a fine red mist...

Shadowlord · « **Reply #964 on:** March 17, 2011, 11:38:17 PM »

So um, one of my buddies has offered to sell his Necron army to me.

I know it is weak in the game but I love their background and models, and it is fully painted to a high standard with a price tag roughly 40% of the retail price.

My CSM are not getting any love from me because I hate painting them, and this Necron force is huge n' cheap.

Should I?

MrDWhitey · « **Reply #965 on:** March 17, 2011, 11:40:34 PM »

Yes, you should.

As a fellow CSM player... yes..

phillyt · « **Reply #966 on:** March 17, 2011, 11:46:48 PM »

Buy it then sell it to me!

Sig · « **Reply #967 on:** March 18, 2011, 12:19:41 AM »

Aren't Necrons due a book soon? They might be playable in a few months. If you like the look of the army and can afford it (which of course you can) then go for it!

phillyt · « **Reply #968 on:** March 18, 2011, 12:20:57 AM »

They do okay now. It is tough stopping a player who just spams necron warriors and monoliths.

phillyt · « **Reply #969 on:** March 18, 2011, 12:28:07 AM »

Come on, there can be some really fun Necron lists. The one I really want is:

3 monoliths
5 x 12 necrons
2 x 5 scarabs with disruption fields
1 lord with war scyth, resurection orb, and phase shifter
1 nightbringer

Shadowlord · « **Reply #970 on:** March 18, 2011, 09:47:39 AM »

Quote from: PhillyT on March 18, 2011, 12:28:07 AM

Come on, there can be some really fun Necron lists. The one I really want is:

That list is nasty even for Necrons who otherwise suffer from the Tomb King syndrome - Aka They suck!

No PhillyT, I do not want to sell it to you because I do not want to be responsible for you ending up alone without any friends.

He has two Monoliths, both painted to a superb standard - I don't even know why I hesitate really - must be something that has to do with the fact that I collecting fantasy greenskins atm. But what the hell, it is really cool and already painted so I can start gaming with it right away when all my strength has returned (damn cell extraction OD chemo dose). And put a nail in the coffin for my CSM (for now).

Shadowlord · « **Reply #971 on:** March 18, 2011, 02:31:03 PM »

I bought them!

Pics up this weekend.

phillyt · « **Reply #972 on:** March 18, 2011, 02:41:55 PM »

I love the monolith shell game!

Mathi Alfblut · « **Reply #973 on:** March 18, 2011, 03:16:23 PM »

Sounds like you did a bargain there, Shadowlord! My son has talked about them Necrons too, and of late borrowed my orks to play some solitare.
I get nothing thone, though. Nothing... I love them orksies but at the same time I get nothing done at the moment. I am pondering asking him if he would like to administer them for me for a period, paint some if he likes too. Dunno... maybe I could begin something anew. My Sisters of Battle for example. Paint more Empire...

Shadowlord · « **Reply #974 on:** March 18, 2011, 03:27:13 PM »

Had a quick price check and it was more 50% of the retail price, not 40% as he claimed, painted to an excellent standard.

I got ripped...

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Author Topic: 40K (Read 305565 times)