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Offline Soulcaresser

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Re: Marienburg (updated 26 OCT 08)
« Reply #175 on: October 28, 2008, 07:40:28 PM »
And again VERY WELL DONE :::cheers::: Keep up the good work

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Re: Marienburg (updated 26 OCT 08)
« Reply #176 on: October 29, 2008, 05:17:12 PM »
Good looking pikes!  Make sure your tetnis shot is up to date just in case.

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Re: Marienburg (updated 26 OCT 08)
« Reply #177 on: October 29, 2008, 11:21:18 PM »


No kidding! I lost track of how many scrapes and holes I had on my hands & arms just from painting them.

I think my mistake was having them face me on the desk. Next time, I will have them facing sideways while I work. And in games, I'm hoping they will always face the enemy. Let my opponent get stabbed!


Offline Struecker von Lengenfeld

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Re: Marienburg (updated 26 OCT 08)
« Reply #178 on: October 31, 2008, 11:22:39 AM »
lovely, keep up the great work!
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Re: Marienburg (updated 27 NOV 08)
« Reply #179 on: November 27, 2008, 05:40:42 AM »


Quick update. Just a couple pics of some of my Burgundians now equipped with Imperial Forge's new banners. There's a more detailed review at my blog (link in sig.)








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Re: Marienburg (updated 27 NOV 08)
« Reply #180 on: November 27, 2008, 10:06:56 AM »
Amazing!
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If I wanted to.

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Re: Marienburg (updated 27 NOV 08)
« Reply #181 on: November 27, 2008, 01:52:40 PM »
Oh, I really hate you now.
QFT. Damn, I could kill for those banners!
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Re: Marienburg (updated 27 NOV 08)
« Reply #182 on: November 27, 2008, 03:30:11 PM »
So.... Beautifully.... oh my....  :icon_cry: you make me ashamed of my miniatures...
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Re: Marienburg (updated 27 NOV 08)
« Reply #183 on: November 27, 2008, 04:29:03 PM »
 :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:

More great figures there - thanks for sharing them .

Just to ask - who makes the mounted figures ( and how do the horses compare with GW warhorses in scale ) ?

And I agree with the other comments - nice looking banners ( could we get Imperial Forge to do some Empire banners please ? ) .

 

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Re: Marienburg (updated 27 NOV 08)
« Reply #184 on: November 27, 2008, 06:27:19 PM »


Whoops. My links in the mini comparison thread are screwed up. I'll fix that later. In the meantime, here's some comparisons:










The cavalry in the pic above are mostly Crusader, but a few Front Rank as well. The Front Rank figure in the comparison pics here looks a bit smaller because it's unarmoured. The barded ones are still a slight bit smaller than the Crusader, but when mixed up in a unit I don't notice it. The Crusader figure I used in the comparison pic was probably not the best choice, since it's the tallest of the bunch (very upright horse and rider sitting high.)

I use those Front Rank medium cavalry (Coustilliers, Hobilars, whatever you call them) as DoW Light Cavalry in my Empire army and they mix well. They're a bit small to mix in the same unit, but in a different unit in the same army they seem fine to me.

The figures from both Crusader and Front Rank are both from each company's Wars of the Roses ranges.

Thanks for all the compliments guys. I'm taking a brief break from Empire figures, though I'm starting to prep some heroes (pegasus, griffin, etc.) for a bit of variety. Still working on some Burgundians (& Low Countries) though, so I may post some more of that soon. Maybe an army shot.






Offline Kriegspiel

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Re: Marienburg (updated 27 NOV 08)
« Reply #185 on: November 27, 2008, 07:24:29 PM »
Thanks for the reply - I should have thought of going to the alternative figures list myself .

Look forward to seeing whatever you choose to post next .

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Re: Marienburg (updated 27 NOV 08)
« Reply #186 on: November 28, 2008, 10:26:16 PM »
mmm 023 work. So delicious to look at. The banners are simply amazing.

sj

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Re: Marienburg (updated 27 NOV 08)
« Reply #187 on: November 29, 2008, 12:23:13 AM »
I like the fact that the halberdier banner says "Plus que vous"  ! Are you insisting that you have the outnumber bonus ?  :biggriin:

For all those that are ignorant of the meaning of this french sentence, and so that they may gain knowledge of the meaning of this special banner and bathe in its glory, "Plus que vous" means "More than you".
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Re: Marienburg (updated 27 NOV 08)
« Reply #188 on: November 29, 2008, 05:05:33 AM »


It's a historical banner & a Burgundian motto. I'd like to think the implication is that they are more manly than their opponents. :mrgreen: "Je Lay Emprins" is a more common motto on many of the other Burgundian banners.


Offline Valetus

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Re: Marienburg (updated 27 NOV 08)
« Reply #189 on: December 01, 2008, 03:26:43 PM »
Love those alternate knight miniatures, especially the horses. Almost convinced to get them. Could you post a picture of a painted one (crusader) beside a painted GW knight as i find the scale is sometimes hard to compare when unpainted?

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Re: Marienburg (updated 27 NOV 08)
« Reply #190 on: December 02, 2008, 12:08:07 AM »
Excellent work 023, my Empire amry, dwarfed as it is by yours, is also doubling up for historicals HRE/Imperial German
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Re: Marienburg (updated 27 NOV 08)
« Reply #191 on: December 03, 2008, 01:56:53 AM »
More excellent stuff 023, and posting the comparisons is very useful, thanks! :::cheers:::
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Offline Rodrigo_Diaz_de_Vivar

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Re: Marienburg (updated 27 NOV 08)
« Reply #192 on: December 19, 2008, 02:03:49 PM »
hell ... where you got those great Gothic Knights from? *NEEED*
Much better then the GW ones.


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Re: Marienburg (updated 11 AUG 09)
« Reply #194 on: August 12, 2009, 12:14:47 AM »
Wow -- long time with no updates.

Not a big one, just a couple spur of the moment artillery pieces.




That's an oldschool Volleygun. I've never used one before, but figured since I was painting other artillery, I may as well do it too in case I want to try it out.

Also an oldschool metal mortar. Not as old as the old oldschool one I already had painted, which was the small one on a flat carriage with no wheels. I've also got one of the newer ones, made with the plastic kit. I think. Somewhere. I don't know, I never really use them.





I also painted these for my medievals, but thought I would post them here as well. A light Burgundian gun and an organ gun. Both a little more realistically scaled than the beasts above. They were taken from the same distance and the photos scaled the same, so you should be able to get an idea of the scale. Those are 40mm round bases they're on. The organ gun barrels are similar size to the Volley Gun. The light gun barrel is slightly larger, close to the size of the Bronzino Galloper Guns.


So, that brings my Empire artillery park up to a total of:

4 Cannons
3 Mortars
2 Rockets
1 Volley Gun


That doesn't include the medieval stuff, the GW Galloper Guns (recently picked up, still not painted,) the old "Empire" dwarf cannons and swivel guns, or the old GW Nippon rocket launcher & crew. I should be good on artillery for a while.  :-D

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Re: Marienburg (updated 11 AUG 09)
« Reply #195 on: August 12, 2009, 06:31:38 AM »
Amazing stuff 023.  I really like how you make the models look like an army despite the different colour schemes and miniatures.  I heart your banners especially.  :eusa_clap:

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Re: Marienburg (updated 11 AUG 09)
« Reply #196 on: August 12, 2009, 07:43:13 AM »
This is a fantastic collection of models sir!  :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:

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Re: Marienburg (updated 11 AUG 09)
« Reply #197 on: August 12, 2009, 05:00:16 PM »
a man after my own heart, love the big boom and the moans when I hit.  You really should experiment a little with a pair of mortars and 2 cannon target both mortars at the same spot hitting a unit with that 5 inch template twice and then shooting a cannon through it once or twice can really mess up your opponents day, if you take an engineer or two with pigeon bombs they can correct any problems with mortar or artileery fire, if no problem they can target choice figures in a unit and make your opponents day complete. :biggriin: steveb

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Re: Marienburg (updated 11 AUG 09)
« Reply #198 on: August 12, 2009, 05:41:37 PM »

I would fire the cannons first, so they hit before ranks are reduced for mortar casualties.


I'm actually contemplating trying that out. Or something similar. Not certain yet.


The problems are:

1. S3 mortars are not terribly effective against the tougher sorts of troops. There are a lot of heavy cav, sauruses, dwarfs, even orcs who can shrug off mortar shots.

2. The ever present problem of how to budget your special slots in an Empire army. 2 cannons and 1 mortar leaves me 1 slot free. How to spend that? A second mortar? Greatswords? Pistoliers? Inner Circle? Tough call.


What about a couple units of swrodsmen with detatchments, a couple of knights, 2 cannons, 2 moartars, 2 rockets. For characters an AL on a WAlter, a lv. 1 or 2 wizard, and a pair of engineers with pigeons. Alternately swap out one engineer for a second wizard or priest.

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Re: Marienburg (updated 11 AUG 09)
« Reply #199 on: August 12, 2009, 06:17:12 PM »
there is all of that for sure, but it is still pretty effective, the 5 inch template is bound to make a few hits even on the strongest. there is one other thing to consider; the enemy is going to make an effort to nail the grand battery, usually.  this in a way lets you know how he is going to approach contact. with the cannons on either flank you can cover your flanks with two small units, maybe one flaggies and one archer skirmish to slow down any charges, you want to have them out far enough so that a flee move wont carry them back into the guns, but close enough so that the cannons can pivot and deliver grape shop. Also since fliers are usually used to attack the guns, take with special characters two orbs of thunder, prevents the other player from using any fliers and as a bought magic item only costs 10pts, cheap protection, I suggest 2 because one might be compromised you still have back up. anyway just a thought. steveb