Topic: Whats the rule for paintedness in GW stores

[Finlay]

Guys, I actually think that the quality and enjoyment derived from a game is from the opponent, not the quality of miniatures.

The purpose of the various bash's are to get together, because we like each other on the forum, and to play a game against virtual and then realised friends.

Yes, part of meeting up is looking at each other's cool armies. But you can go anywhere and play someone who has a painted army - they could be a powergamer, a kid, a guy who got it painted by someone else, anything, and you still won't have the same experience you will while bonding with someone in real life whom you spend so much time talking to virtually.

I would equate playing an unpainted army with playing a less than ideal opponent. Although obviously the suckiness of an opponent is way more detrimental than unpaintedness.

or a fancy dress party without fancy dress (still think that was an amazing analogy!)

Are you disappointed that no one commented on it? I think you are.

Obviously, that's why I repeated it!
It was much better than Fandirs "I dont want to paint my army because everyone else at the Bash did, but if they all killed themselves then I wouldn't" arguement

[t12161991]

But why?

It's one thing if it's a (I hate having to use this term) professional setting or something. I get that you see it as a lack of effort, which, when you come right down to it, isn't true for me. I don't have a single fully assembled model that is not converted in some way. I just don't like, and can't, paint.

[MrDWhitey]

Anything's better than the old ""Well if someone told you to jump off a bridge would you?" when you do something else which is entirely reasonable to you and you were informed it was fine" argument.

[Finlay]

But why?

It's one thing if it's a (I hate having to use this term) professional setting or something. I get that you see it as a lack of effort, which, when you come right down to it, isn't true for me. I don't have a single fully assembled model that is not converted in some way. I just don't like, and can't, paint.

You really want to argue that playing with unpainted models is nicer/better than playing with painted?

[MrDWhitey]

I sincerely doubt anyone is even thinking of trying to argue that. 

Well, they might be thinking it in a sarcastic fashion for trolling purposes.

[Finlay]

It has got a little silly.

I'm gonna bow out of this thread- I hope Aldaris and Fandir manage to paint 2000 for the Bash. Not because I would make them feel unwelcome, or refuse to play them, but just because it would make for a better gaming experience for everyone.

[t12161991]

No, that's not what I was trying to say at all. I was challenging the "an unpainted opponent is a less than satisfactory opponent" dealeo.

You can still have fun playing without painted models.

[Fandir Nightshade]

With a like minded person.

I just disliked his tone and that he played the evil empire telling me what to do and not to do. I actually have 2250 points painted ....not really good painted but still. But I as I stated I dislike people who take the hobby to serious and spoil the fun of others by making them feel bad about something. It is like telling Bies all the time that he is an ass because he uses special characters and tough lists.

[FR1DAY]

Not to stir up a hornet nest again but I liked Finlays analogy!

Painted armies, regardless of standard make for more visually spectacular battles.
I'm not a lover of totally unpainted armies but a couple of unit is fine. We're all always adding to our forces.
Not grey plastic mind, anyone can use a spray can.

[Aldaris]

No, where did you get that idea? Read my post again.

Wow, you are so cool man. No really, you are.

I know, thank you! And you are obviously easily impressed.
 

[Nicholas Bies]

With a like minded person.

I just disliked his tone and that he played the evil empire telling me what to do and not to do. I actually have 2250 points painted ....not really good painted but still. But I as I stated I dislike people who take the hobby to serious and spoil the fun of others by making them feel bad about something. It is like telling Bies all the time that he is an ass because he uses special characters and tough lists.

Yea but once it's been told to you 100 times you sort of get over it. I may point out I don't use SC that often...I'm beginning to think I give off the wrong vibe to you guys.

As for painted / un-painted. Much the same as Proxying. I don't mind people proxying as long as they're intending to start that army (or trying to decide if they should collect that army) as I know in the end I'll be playing against the corect miniatures.

I don't mind painting an unpainted army as long as I know given time it will eventually progress. I won't lie and say I like seeing 5000pts un-painted and playing that 5000pts every week but it's not a major hickup imho.

[Warhammer-Weib]

As I've just begun playing Warhammer and collecting, my whole army is unpainted - and yes. Shadowlord, sometimes I do find it hard to remember every basic rule. With a job and two kids around, it is going to take me a long time to paint the whole army (and I like painting!). But if all of you only played against painted armies and experienced gamers I would never have a chance to learn.

[Gneisenau]

You suck and should be banned for life.

Also, if we've learned anything from this thread, it's that you will never have sex at a party. Which is what all the cool people do, apparently.

[Warhammer-Weib]

 

[Fandir Nightshade]

You suck and should be banned for life.

Also, if we've learned anything from this thread, it's that you will never have sex at a party. Which is what all the cool people do, apparently.

Only if it is a warhammer party and you show up with a painted army and a fancy dress.

[rufus sparkfire]

You can still have fun playing without painted models.

Yes. But less fun.

[Obi]

or a fancy dress party without fancy dress (still think that was an amazing analogy!)

I liked that one a lot.

The purpose of the various bash's are to get together, because we like each other on the forum, and to play a game against virtual and then realised friends.

Pfft... What experience do you have?



About the paintedness: I'll play a person with a non-fully painted army. I do, however think that having a fully painted army makes the game a lot more fun. Therefore I'll most likely be bringing some of my old, crappily painted units instead of the new, grey, nicely assembled ones I'll have then. Painted = better. If you argue otherwise, you're wrong. And that alone should be enough motivation to paint.

Note: I actually dislike painting of units. Ten models is max for me, I get demotivated otherwise.

[rufus sparkfire]

If you argue otherwise, you're wrong.

Nice arguing! I like that.

[Fandir Nightshade]

He also forgot his smiley. 

[Obi]

I'm sorry, what smiley?

If you argue otherwise, you're wrong.

Nice arguing! I like that.

Yes, I'd expected that sort of reasoning would appeal to you.

[rufus sparkfire]

Harsh!

I like it because it's ridiculous. But it's also a shorthand version of the way most people argue. You just haven't disguised the 'or you are wrong' bit with some random nonsense.

[Fandir Nightshade]

Well I am right because I have more post counts than Obi....

Well I never should start an argument with Rufus though!

[rufus sparkfire]

On the subject of posts, when on earth did you make more than four and a half thousand of them?

[Fandir Nightshade]

IF the backtable would count I would have thrice that number!


Arguing with Finlay and Obi helps a lot!
 

[Gneisenau]

You can still have fun playing without painted models.

Yes. But less fun.

Yeah, but if that keeps you from playing... To stay with "witty" analogies: That's like not dating any women because none of them has the looks of Vivian Leigh, the brains of Marie Curie and the good heart of Mother Theresa all in one person.

I like it because it's ridiculous. But it's also a shorthand version of the way most people argue.

No it isn't. You suck, too.