Topic: Characters in War Machine Units?

[Swan-of-War]

So, the main rulebook clearly states that characters are not allowed to join warmachines (see Characters section, not Warmachines as referrenced in the back). Yet, in the FAQ, the address a question about characters/champions in a warmachine unit being able to issue challenges. 

Is there some kind of warmachine-hybrid entry or something in one of the other army books that allows characters to join or is GW just being off?

[Delthos]

I'm pretty sure some armies warmachines have upgrades that give them charactes of sorts. I'm not familiar with those that do though.

[Athiuen]

Perhaps the engineer for dwarves?

[TexasYankee]

Perhaps the engineer for dwarves?

Yes, you can upgrade most dwarf war machines with a regualr engineer (not the Master Engineer, which is a Hero), and you can even kit him out with a brace of pistols or a handgun. This would effectively also give the war machine four wounds instead of three.

I'm not sure of any other armies that allow something like this. Brothers?

[The Peacemaker]

Bretonnian Trebs let you upgrade 1 guy to a .....champ. Basically for 10pts you get +1 BS for a stone thrower...


What page does it say characters can't join warmachines cause I've been playing it as if they could.

[Delthos]

Bretonnian Trebs let you upgrade 1 guy to a .....champ. Basically for 10pts you get +1 BS for a stone thrower...


What page does it say characters can't join warmachines cause I've been playing it as if they could.

All the good that +1 BS gives a Stone Thrower!

[Eighty]

goblin rock lobba's and maybe the doom diver can add an Orc bully for an extra wound and an extra attack (with the Choppa special rule!)

[Swan-of-War]

Thanks for the answers guys!

@Peacemaker.  Take a look at pg 97 of the little rulebook, under What Unit Can I Join?

I had the crazy idea of a BSB joining a cannon unit with his Banner of Eternal Flame.
Flaming cannon shot anyone?  Take that Hell Pit Abomination!
But alas, it looks like a match that will never be so.  Curse you clearly-written rules!

[novemberrain]

The brettonnian treb upgrade is for the +1 Ld you get, nothing else.

[Scarr Gunliner]

The brettonnian treb upgrade is for the +1 Ld you get, nothing else.

Also for indirect fire (which never happens).

[Finlay]

the orc bully boosts leadership too.

[Delthos]

I had the crazy idea of a BSB joining a cannon unit with his Banner of Eternal Flame.
Flaming cannon shot anyone?  Take that Hell Pit Abomination!
But alas, it looks like a match that will never be so.  Curse you clearly-written rules!

Flaming Sword of Rhuin does it better. It lets you auto wound anything Toughness 8 or lower!

[Walt von Ark]

Is there some kind of warmachine-hybrid entry or something in one of the other army books that allows characters to join ?

The dark elves Cauldron of blood counts as a warmachine and comes with a hero( hag)
I think the dwarven anvil count as a wm as well and is only available to a (rune)lord.

Walt