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BRB FAQ up
« on: October 20, 2012, 01:20:27 AM »
Just noticed a new FAQ up at GW.com (as of Oct 2012), best news for me is monstrous cav now gets to use the highest wounds AND toughness of the model... DGK are now tough 4!!! Nice!!!  :-D

Don't know when this went up, but it makes me happy!!!

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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2012, 01:39:39 AM »
BRB and AB FAQ
Update v.1.6

BRB
Page83–Monstrous Cavalry.
In the second paragraph, replace“All the cavalry rules…with one exception–monstrous cavalry always use the highest Wounds characteristic…”with“All the cavalry rules…with two exceptions–monstrous cavalry always use the highest Toughness and Wounds characteristics…”
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ERRATA
Page 87 -Mounts, Warhorse.
Change the Warhorse’s Movement to 8.

AMENDMENTS

FAQs

Q: If a Detachment has lost a combat, can it claim the Steadfast special rule for its Regimental Unit’s ranks even if that unit is either not in the same combat or is involved in another combat? (p30)
A: Yes. Always use the Regimental Unit’s ranks to determine whether or not its Detachments are Steadfast. However, if a Regimental Unit is involved in a separate combat in which it is not Steadfast due to the number of enemy ranks, then its Detachments are not Steadfast either, even if the Regimental unit has more ranks than the enemy unit actually attacking its Detachment.

Q: If an enemy chariot charges a Regimental Unit and one or more of its Detachments makes a successful Counter Charge, does the chariot still get to make Impact Hits? (p30)
A: Yes, though the chariot’s Impact Hits can only be assigned to the Regimental Unit.

Q: Can a Commander of the Empire who is on his own or riding a monster still make use of his Hold the Line! special rule? (p32)
A: No.

Q: Do a Warrior Priest’s Righteous Fury and Battle Prayers affect his unit’s mounts? (p36)
A: No.

Q: If a Witch Hunter is equipped with a magic item such as the Ring of Volans or the Ruby Ring of Ruin, will any bound spell effects/magic missiles retain the Killing Blow special rule against the target of the Witch Hunter’s Accusation rule? (p37)
A: Yes.

Q: Does the War Altar of Sigmar’s Holy Fervour affect friendly Empire characters? (p47)
A: Yes.

Q: If Volkmar the Grim/the Arch Lector riding atop the War Altar is killed, is the War Altar also removed from play? (p47)
A: No.

Q: If my army contains more than one Celestial Hurricanum, do their +1 To Hit bonuses for Portents of Battle stack if one of my
units is within 6" of both Hurricanums? (p53)
A: No.

Q: Is a model wearing the White Cloak of Ulric still considered to be in base contact with an enemy model if he is riding a mount or monster for the purposes of inflicting a -1 penalty to their rolls To Hit? (p63)
A: Yes.

Last Updated October 2012

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Re: BRB FAQ up
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2012, 02:00:45 AM »
Thank goodness we got those cleared up.  That's really all the big ones I can think of. 

Awesome on the detachment rules.

DGKs got even better?  Damnit, I guess I have to buy another box.

Bummer on the WP hatred not working on mounts though!

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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2012, 02:44:13 AM »
Thanks for posting this!

I never check GW. :unsure:
them are some stupid and ugly ass pieces. Griffons without wings? Sure as hell ain't touching my army.

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Re: BRB FAQ up
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2012, 03:06:31 AM »
All I gotta say is... wow!

Demi-Gryphs just got even better! (and they were already good to begin with). That and I think detachments have a real purpuse now in an Empire army.

Only bad thing is the hold the line rule kinda hurts my Captain on a Pegasus. Oh well! Its still a power, cheap and mobile character.

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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2012, 03:20:23 AM »
Mostly good news, a bit of bad news.  All in all this is an awesome update which clears up a lot of things.

It is AWESOME that demigryphs are officially T4, but it sucks that you can no longer plant a priest with them to give the mounts a reroll.

Killing blow on the ruby ring could be devastating for taking out lone characters, even for blasting them off of monstrous mounts. 

The steadfast thing is great to have some clarification, and works the way that most people assumed it would.

Hold the line is finally clarified, so we have another glaring loop hole which we can close the book on.

All in all a good day for the empire.

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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2012, 03:31:40 AM »
That being said... I don't think you can Snipe with a bound spell like the Ruby ring. Is this correct?

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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2012, 03:49:46 AM »
yeah, they made a bad call with death magic and the ogre greedy fist, so unfortunately the precedent has been set for spell hits/wounds to carry over the owner's special effects.

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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2012, 04:05:50 AM »
yeah, they made a bad call with death magic and the ogre greedy fist, so unfortunately the precedent has been set for spell hits/wounds to carry over the owner's special effects.

Are you sure about that?  So you are saying a Witch Hunter with a Fireball can use his snipe rule with it?

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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2012, 04:19:06 AM »
I was just referring to Killing Blow. I don't believe spells can ever single out characters unless specifically mentioned in the spell's description (though I have been wrong many times before). So a shooting rule would not be applied in the  magic phase.

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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2012, 04:21:38 AM »
And I apologize, I see how my comment appeared connected to sniping.

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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2012, 04:33:36 AM »
And I apologize, I see how my comment appeared connected to sniping.

What I believe, this poster is saying is that you can take a Witch Hunger (give him the Ring of Volans) and take the base lvl Death Spell. With that you can killing blow characters.

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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2012, 04:50:25 AM »
What I believe, this poster is saying is that you can take a Witch Hunger (give him the Ring of Volans) and take the base lvl Death Spell. With that you can killing blow characters.
The base level death spell does not inflict hits, and thus is unaffected by the Witch Hunter's special rule which reads "Every hit he inflicts...". Moreover, killing blow takes effect when you roll a 6 to wound, but there is no to-wound roll for spirit leech. It WOULD work if you generated Caress of Lahiph or Fate of Bjuna, which is not unlikely if you already have an L4 death on the field and allow it to roll spells first. It's a strategy that could conceivably work, although the killing blow special rule doesn't add a lot of potential here.

Using it to kill with fireballs on the other hand is only effective against enemies on foot, monsters or monstrous mounts. Of course with the recent errata on monstrous mount toughness, we may be seeing a lot more of those soon, especially from elven armies.

As an added bonus it's safe to miscast with ring of volans.

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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2012, 04:55:56 AM »
You guys see the new ruling on overrun vs war machines that die do to breaking, units that die due to unstable etc? They can no longer be overrun. This means its going to be slightly harder for me to hunt your war machines with fast-cav and eagles.

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Re: BRB FAQ up
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2012, 05:51:37 AM »
What I believe, this poster is saying is that you can take a Witch Hunger (give him the Ring of Volans) and take the base lvl Death Spell. With that you can killing blow characters.
The base level death spell does not inflict hits, and thus is unaffected by the Witch Hunter's special rule which reads "Every hit he inflicts...". Moreover, killing blow takes effect when you roll a 6 to wound, but there is no to-wound roll for spirit leech. It WOULD work if you generated Caress of Lahiph or Fate of Bjuna, which is not unlikely if you already have an L4 death on the field and allow it to roll spells first. It's a strategy that could conceivably work, although the killing blow special rule doesn't add a lot of potential here.

Using it to kill with fireballs on the other hand is only effective against enemies on foot, monsters or monstrous mounts. Of course with the recent errata on monstrous mount toughness, we may be seeing a lot more of those soon, especially from elven armies.

As an added bonus it's safe to miscast with ring of volans.

That toughness rule only applies to monstorous cav not to characters riding monsters. Example a GOTE doesn't get the Griffons toughness.

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« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2012, 06:20:57 AM »
Bit sad you can't use 'Hold the Line!' for single characters - makes the Peg Captain a little bit less super saiyan.
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« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2012, 06:25:04 AM »
That toughness rule only applies to monstorous cav not to characters riding monsters. Example a GOTE doesn't get the Griffons toughness.
I think you'll be seeing more elven lords and heroes on eagles. The boost to toughness is substantial, especially against S3 shooting. (keep in mind that all of our characters are T3).

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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2012, 06:32:28 AM »
Demigryphons hooooooooooo......and I think we will have some weeks of the Steadfast camp dancing....told ya so.


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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2012, 06:56:10 AM »
@ nightshade

Evil tactics are evil!

I expect next year's ETC banned tactics article to contain a few detachment rules


My only grrr is that they mentioned the white cloak, but didnt clear up who counts as B2B (front rank models?, + supporting attacks??, whole unit???)


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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2012, 06:59:12 AM »

My only grrr is that they mentioned the white cloak, but didnt clear up who counts as B2B (front rank models?, + supporting attacks??, whole unit???)


Just looked at the VC FAQ and swarm of flies was errated to read specifically models in B2B...man that opens up the "white cloak rules = units have -1 to hit due to similar rules getting specifically changed while it did not" argument....sigh

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« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2012, 07:19:54 AM »
Great news! I'm particularly happy about the clarification of Steadfast, the FAQ says just what I hoped it would!

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« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2012, 07:31:10 AM »
Well they cleared up a lot of the arguments that bugged the hell out of me -- the detachment/steadfast issue, single heroes getting HtL, priests giving mounts hatred and battle prayer benefits, counter charging detachments interrupting impact hits. Yay for common sense!

Hmm if your BSB gets moved to the back because of a refused challenge--- he loses the Hold Your Ground rule till the end of the turn. That's a big un.

No stacking +1 to hits for multiple Hurricanum.

Nice bonus getting better toughness for MC and supporting attacks!

Too bad they didn't go further with the white cloak explanation and explain what happens when the character chews into the unit.

Great news! I'm particularly happy about the clarification of Steadfast, the FAQ says just what I hoped it would!
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Re: BRB FAQ up
« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2012, 08:04:54 AM »
Hmm if your BSB gets moved to the back because of a refused challenge--- he loses the Hold Your Ground rule till the end of the turn. That's a big un.

Nice bonus getting better toughness for MC and supporting attacks!

More reason to put your BSB on a pegasus now and magic armour him up.

MC get supporting attacks now?



Anyway, with the toughness changes to the demi-chickens makes them better, no righteous fury is a setback but this also means that knights horses don't get the righteous fury either!!!! And we all know its the horses that do the dmg so its even more incentive to keep taking demi-chickens for competitive play.

lol, I just have a picture in my mind of a cartoon goblin reading the new FAQ and the in the background he hears clucking noises and the ground rumbling.
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« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2012, 08:10:06 AM »
Wow! Just awesome. Those detachment rules make our units worth the points... So many different ways of playing them now, even swordsmen feel like a decent option now. And demigryphs! I'm starting to wonder if a level 1 beasts wizard might be a plan... S6 T5 Demigryphs!

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« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2012, 09:24:45 AM »
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2710122a_WARHAMMER_RULEBOOK_v1.6.pdf

Is this the correct link? Where does it say about WPs and mounts i can't find it ?