Topic: How the Empire was Ruined Forever!

[Padre]

Shark has been jumped 

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark for what this means. I think I am starting to lose track of the spoken/written word, maybe it's an age thing?

[The Ol Perfesser]

Shark has been jumped 

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark for what this means. I think I am starting to lose track of the spoken/written word, maybe it's an age thing?

You and I both, Padre
 

[Finne]

Shark has been jumped 

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark for what this means. I think I am starting to lose track of the spoken/written word, maybe it's an age thing?

I was just referencing that this thread had indeed jumped the shark, more so with a D&D reference that I quoted.  May not have translated well.  Yep knew about where jumping the shark came from. 

[Fidelis von Sigmaringen]

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006.M42: In the early 42nd Millennium, the fall of Medusa V occurs. The world was mostly evacuated by the Imperum of Man whilst a warp storm engulfed it... the 24,601st edition of Warhammer is published, ruining Warhammer and The Empire forever... 

In fact, there is only one next entry:

2014: The Empire and WFB WAS ruined forever.

(I bumped into this again by chance, and thought the list warrants its proper conclusion).

[HoS]

Yeah this thread is depressing holy crap.

[The Peacemaker]

(The next 49,202 entries have been omited to save space. -Editor)

006.M42: In the early 42nd Millennium, the fall of Medusa V occurs. The world was mostly evacuated by the Imperum of Man whilst a warp storm engulfed it... the 24,601st edition of Warhammer is published, ruining Warhammer and The Empire forever... 

In fact, there is only one next entry:

2014: The Empire and WFB WAS ruined forever.

(I bumped into this again by chance, and thought the list warrants its proper conclusion).

I always new you were secretly a Necromancer Fidelis!
Just like Balthazar Gelt! you have turned to the dark arts.

The inquisitors will be informed of this!

[Fidelis von Sigmaringen]

This is not necromancy, but closure...

[Fidelis von Sigmaringen]

I came to bury Sigmar, not to raise him....

[Syn Ace]

I came to bury Sigmar, not to raise him....

 

[The Peacemaker]

Well Sigmar's body fell into a dung heap. But some Necromancer raised him up anyway.

And now we have the Age of Shitmar.

[Zygmund]

And now we have the Age of Shitmar.

The OP truly made a point, it seems.

Looking around in my home, my friends, my club, the not-GW store, AoS is almost non-existent. Instead I see T9A, KoW, some Oldhammer and a rare glimpse of the 8th edition played around here. And a newfound freedom in choosing miniatures.

It was about time to cut the ties to the company. At last we're mature and can enjoy the hobby on our own. Now we only have ourselves to blame if we ruin the Empire.

-Z

[Feanor Fire Heart]

I feel like since the AoS was released and retconned storm of chaos, not to mentioned ended the timeline for WHFB...its just a way more depressing universe now, and not in a good way.
 

There's no room for a future, new emperor, new stories, new anything.  Like a nail in the coffin of what could be in the warhammer universe.

[Warlord]

The timeline was static for a long time though.
I think that has been the biggest downfall of warhammer.

They should have advanced the timeline every edition, even of only for a generation.
That was you justify new character models and rules, various new units, even changing background to reflect a story you want to tell.
That's what I think they are doing with AoS, but AoS lacks soul and depth.

[The Peacemaker]

That was you justify new character models and rules, various new units,

I never understood people's objections to the way GW added Demi-gryphons.  I thought it was fine how they wrote them in.
its not like the fluff was extensively hammered out years before. It was always written in a way that supported new stuff being written in.


But I do think advancing the story would have been great. Even doing limited releases/campaigns for events in the past story, like the war of the beard.

[TexasYankee]

That was you justify new character models and rules, various new units,

I never understood people's objections to the way GW added Demi-gryphons.  I thought it was fine how they wrote them in.
its not like the fluff was extensively hammered out years before. It was always written in a way that supported new stuff being written in.


But I do think advancing the story would have been great. Even doing limited releases/campaigns for events in the past story, like the war of the beard.

I never did mind the FLUFF of the Demi-gryphs, I just hated how broken they were on the table and they completely changed how people played Empire.

[Warlord]

Its not just Demi gryphs, or single army books.
Its also changes in the meta. Time moves on (an edition change) and goblins have improved their armour vs crossbows (or whatever changes in the meta).

[The Peacemaker]

I never did mind the FLUFF of the Demi-gryphs, I just hated how broken they were on the table and they completely changed how people played Empire.

Ah, yes. That I do understand.

[steveb]

Well, see, once upon a time there was wonderful a medieval miniatures wargame, by name of Chainmail. Not nearly as complex as some of the other historical war games on the market, but not as dumbed down simplitisc as some others.  Then Gary Gygax went and ruined it forever with a supplement that added rules for jousting, man-to-man melee, and conducting battles with fantasy creatures... and then a few years later, Gygax and Arneson went and ruined things even more by turning it into Dungeons & Dragons.

And yes, I do know people still bitter about this... 

Chainmail was co-written by Gary Gygax and Jeff Perrin, both member of Tactical Studies Research (TSR) group. Gary lived in Lake Geneva WI, and Jeff lived in Rockford Illinois.  I watched Gary and his daughters write corrections in the first D&D books in pencil on their dining room table.  Those were good times.  steveb 

[Gneisenau]

Chainmail was co-written by Gary Gygax and Jeff Perrin, both member of Tactical Studies Research (TSR) group. Gary lived in Lake Geneva WI, and Jeff lived in Rockford Illinois.  I watched Gary and his daughters write corrections in the first D&D books in pencil on their dining room table.  Those were good times.  steveb

That's a great little story!