1992: The fourth edition of Warhammer is published, ruining Warhammer and The Empire forever.
I don't get this humour at all?
Your saying that with the 1983 Vol 2 release , everything was ruined?
That's like saying that Warhammer was ruined from it's creation?!
Please elaborate
It is trying to pull the leg of those that complain about the changes to the Empire in 8th ed.
I like the new edition, everything feels fresh again
Okay... aparently I have utterly failed at sarcasm. So I have to state this is plan language: Warhammer is fine. The Empire is fine. The world has not ended.
Are you sure ?
1983: The first edition of Warhammer, written by Bryan Ansell, Richard Halliwell, Graham Eckel and Rick Priestley is published. It is a boxed set consiting of three books:
Vol 1: Tabletop Battles, which contains the core rules, turn sequence, creature lists...
Vol 2: Magic which explains rules for wizards and ruins Warhammer forever...
Vol 3: Characters contains rules for characters and ruins Warhammer forever.
1984: The first edition of Warhammer is extended with the Forces of Fantasy boxed set, ruining Warhammer forever.
1984: The second edition of Warhammer is released, this includes the first appearance of the Warhammer 'Known World' along with a map, and a timeline which includes/introduces The Empire, ruining Warhammer forever.
1987: The second edition of Warhammer is expanded with the Ravening Hordes army lists, ruining Warhammer and The Empire forever.
1987: The third edition of Warhammer is published as a single hardback book, ruining Warhammer and The Empire forever.
1987: The third edition of Warhammer is expanded with the Realm of Chaos and Warhammer Siege books, ruining Warhammer and The Empire forever.
1992: The fourth edition of Warhammer is published, ruining Warhammer and The Empire forever.
1993: The fourth edition of Warhammer is expanded with the use of army lists in the form of separate Warhammer Army Books, ruining Warhammer and The Empire forever.
1994: The 4th edition of Warhammer is expanded with a new Empire army book, ruining Warhammer and The Empire forever.
1996: The fifth edition of Warhammer is published, ruining Warhammer and The Empire forever.
1996: The fifth edition of Warhammer is expanded with a re-worked magic system, ruining Warhammer and The Empire forever.
1996: The fifth edition of Warhammer is expanded with seveal boxed campaign packs, like Tears of Isha, ruining Warhammer and The Empire forever.
2000: The sixth edition of Warhammer is published, ruining Warhammer and The Empire forever.
2000: The 6th edition of Warhammer is expanded with a new Empire army book, ruining Warhammer and The Empire forever.
2006: The seventh edition of Warhammer is published, ruining Warhammer and The Empire forever.
2006: The 7th edition of Warhammer is expanded with a new Empire army book, ruining Warhammer and The Empire forever.
2010: The 8th edition of Warhammer is published, ruining Warhammer and The Empire forever.
2011: The 8th edition of Warhammer is expanded with Storm of Magic, ruining Warhammer and The Empire forever.
2012: The 8th edition of Warhammer is expanded with a new Empire army book, ruining Warhammer and The Empire forever.
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006.M42: In the early 42nd Millennium, the fall of Medusa V occurs. The world was mostly evacuated by the Imperum of Man whilst a warp storm engulfed it... the 24,601st edition of Warhammer is published, ruining Warhammer and The Empire forever... ::heretic::
Are you sure ?
I still have 108 painted Squat infantry, plus support vehicles, in storage... awaiting their return to the WH40K game. That will be the sign of the End Times.
*Well, not all seriousness.
** Do your own math, but it is impolite to point out that a lady is about to turn 31. :icon_wink:
***Optional: Roll 1d6:
1) Blame Matt Ward;
2) Blame Robin Cruddace;
3) Blame C.S. Goto;
4-6) Blame "Evil money-grubbing Game$ Work$hop!"
Okay... aparently I have utterly failed at sarcasm. So I have to state this is plan language: Warhammer is fine. The Empire is fine. The world has not ended.
Are you sure ?
I still have 108 painted Squat infantry, plus support vehicles, in storage... awaiting their return to the WH40K game. That will be the sign of the End Times.
In all seriousness*, let me share a bit of background... I am not as old as some of the members of this forum, and I'm not as young as most of them. But I was younger than most when I got my start in the roleplaying hobby, at the wee age of seven, back in 1988** I was introduced to an odd little game called Dungeons & Dragons. No, not AD&D (that came latter), I had an instant fascination for the hobby - these were the King Arthur stories I loved to read, the incredible tales out ofLord of the Kings my mother had read me to sleep with in kindergarten, the He-Man and She-Ra adventures I loved to see on TV every Saturday... but I got to be the hero(ine). I was the youngest player in the group by a good six years, most of the guys were in their late teens (our original DM was our new 20-something parish priest! :engel:)
In the midsummmer 1990, I was nine years old and a seasoned veteran of D&D... Heck, I was even running my own dungeons! Then my freinds and I discovered Warhammer, then in its third edition. Warhammer hit its fourth edition not to long after we'd all sort of settled into our choice of armies. I'd already survived two edition wars over D&D by this point (some of the blokes in the original group were still bitter about Chainmaile having become the original edition of D&D), I'd survived a split between Shadowrun and Cyberpunk, and even managed to weather the storm of being "A. Girl. In. A. Game. Store."
There have been five revisions of 40K since I started, five revisions of WHFB since I started, four or five revisions of damn near every RPG ever since I started... and something like 10 or 12 revisions of D&D since I started; There have been so many Secret Inifinte Crisis Invasions of Infinte Zero Wars in my favorite comic book publishers that I go cross-eyed thinking about it... and the Console Wars. Oh god, the console wars...(Fourty-five minute pause while I deal with my PTSD from the Great Genesis/SNES War.)
I mean, don't let me get in the way of your holy wars... But I've lived through so many things being "RUINED FOREVER!" over the years, that I have become a bit jaded. To judge by the reactions of this games more vocal fans every product ever released is the death knell of the game, the hobby, and Western civilization. Seriously, GW could put a £50 note in every $14.99 blister pack, and the forums wudl erupt with hatred that they weren't giving away Euros, and that [insert any random GW staffer here]*** was trying to devalue the pound.
*Well, not all seriousness.
** Do your own math, but it is impolite to point out that a lady is about to turn 31. :icon_wink:
***Optional: Roll 1d6:
1-2) Blame Matt Ward;
3-4) Blame Robin Cruddace;
5) Blame C.S. Goto;
6) Blame "Evil money-grubbing Game$ Work$hop!"
Would it be impolite to say that your five posts alone make me think you're pretty hot?
To judge by the reactions of this games more vocal fans every product ever released is the death knell of the game, the hobby, and Western civilization.
Would it be impolite to say that your five posts alone make me think you're pretty hot?
Impolite? Meh.
Creepy? Sure as sunrise. :)
Gosh, some1 says that he/she is a girl and all of you auto-agree with him/her?
1. If considered as criticism of current players who cry about quite good 8ed Empire, poking eyes of blind people does not make you savior
2. If post is serious, it's pathetic.
Respect for aged Empire player, but i play empire since 5th edition, and i find it better and better every ED. Yes, they nerf something over editions, but overall picture is unique: We can do what others cannot. Field entire shooting army, entire knighly army, entire WARMACHINES army if we like. And now in 8ed, we can field entire Chariots Army :D
So, Empire rules(Thus, negating your premise that world have ended...repeatedly)
Okay... aparently I have utterly failed at sarcasm. So I have to state this is plan language: Warhammer is fine. The Empire is fine. The world has not ended.
If anything it was ruined forever earlier than the 2nd vol of first edition. I was excited when I was reading page one of vol 1 back in 1983, then I turned the page and Warhammer was ruined forever.
Okay... aparently I have utterly failed at sarcasm. So I have to state this is plan language: Warhammer is fine. The Empire is fine. The world has not ended.
Well, I thought it was funny, and therefore it was clearly, objectively and quantifiably funny. Anyone who says otherwise is demonstrably wrong. As wrong as people who say that 8th ed is better than 6th ed ;)
Gosh, some1 says that he/she is a girl and all of you auto-agree with him/her?
1. If considered as criticism of current players who cry about quite good 8ed Empire, poking eyes of blind people does not make you savior
2. If post is serious, it's pathetic.
Respect for aged Empire player, but i play empire since 5th edition, and i find it better and better every ED. Yes, they nerf something over editions, but overall picture is unique: We can do what others cannot. Field entire shooting army, entire knighly army, entire WARMACHINES army if we like. And now in 8ed, we can field entire Chariots Army :D
So, Empire rules(Thus, negating your premise that world have ended...repeatedly)
If anything it was ruined forever earlier than the 2nd vol of first edition. I was excited when I was reading page one of vol 1 back in 1983, then I turned the page and Warhammer was ruined forever.
Changed my mind. I have just re-read the first page of Vol 1 of Ed 1 WFB, and the first paragraph is good. Then in the second paragraph, Warhammer was ruined forever.
... Empire's not ruined, water's wet.
April 20, 2012: Michigan posts sarcastic rant about the Empire and Warhammer. The internet is ruined forever.
April 20, 2012: Michigan posts sarcastic rant about the Empire and Warhammer. The internet is ruined forever.
It finally dawned on me: the first letter of the first word of the sentence of first paragraph of Vol 1 of first edition Warhammer was really really good, but the second one ruined Warhammer forever.
The cover was good, but then, when I opened the book....
Walking into the shop where they sold the book, I remember distinctly (even though it was 1983 and I was 15), was good. Then someone said "Have you seen this book?" and Warhammer was ruined forever.Yes. You started playing! :happy:
how can I go and argue with conservatives in the back table at 2.30am when somebody's just posted that...?
April 20, 2012: Michigan posts sarcastic rant about the Empire and Warhammer. The internet is ruined forever.
And yet again, no humor. Sarcasm fails :D But, due to gender issue, prep for army of followers! Hope you can handle that :D
April 20, 2012: Michigan posts sarcastic rant about the Empire and Warhammer. The internet is ruined forever.
And yet again, no humor. Sarcasm fails :D But, due to gender issue, prep for army of followers! Hope you can handle that :D
Plenty of humor there for someone that can see it, you however seem intent on turning this into something personal. If you don't find it humorous that's fine, but leave your insults at the door, you can pick them up on the way out.
Warhammer was good, but then it took an arrow to the knee.
Walking into the shop where they sold the book, I remember distinctly (even though it was 1983 and I was 15), was good. Then someone said "Have you seen this book?" and Warhammer was ruined forever.Ahh. These youngsters! :closed-eyes:
Well, see, once upon a time there was wonderful a medieval miniatures wargame, by name of Chainmail. Not nearly as complex as some of the other historical war games on the market, but not as dumbed down simplitisc as some others. Then Gary Gygax went and ruined it forever with a supplement that added rules for jousting, man-to-man melee, and conducting battles with fantasy creatures... and then a few years later, Gygax and Arneson went and ruined things even more by turning it into Dungeons & Dragons.I had not realized that Chainmail pre-dated D&D. Maybe I'm not as big a nerd as I thought I was!
And yes, I do know people still bitter about this... :roll:
I somehow feel this thread has now run its course and is about to be ruined forever.
I somehow feel this thread has now run its course and is about to be ruined forever.:::cheers:::
Michigan posts a thread about Warhammer being ruined forever, ruining ruining Warhammer forever forever.
Someone posted something on the internet and... well, you get the idea...RUINCEPTION
Someone posted something on the internet and... well, you get the idea...RUINCEPTION
I have observed that not the man who hopes when others despair, but the man who despairs when others hope, is admired by a large class of persons as a sage
This thread actually finally got ruined when Finlay appeared and then Fandir joined in ................... we need a smilie with an arrow whooshing over a head, (not in the knee) ..........I got the joke in the OP, I was responding to the reason why people tend to be pessimistic, which Chumley was talking about.
:engel:
Well, see, once upon a time there was wonderful a medieval miniatures wargame, by name of Chainmail. Not nearly as complex as some of the other historical war games on the market, but not as dumbed down simplitisc as some others. Then Gary Gygax went and ruined it forever with a supplement that added rules for jousting, man-to-man melee, and conducting battles with fantasy creatures... and then a few years later, Gygax and Arneson went and ruined things even more by turning it into Dungeons & Dragons.
And yes, I do know people still bitter about this... :roll:
And not only once...now the Great White is ruined forever.
Great White is ruined forever.
Shark has been jumped :mrgreen:
You and I both, PadreShark has been jumped :mrgreen:
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark for what this means. I think I am starting to lose track of the spoken/written word, maybe it's an age thing?
Shark has been jumped :mrgreen:
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark for what this means. I think I am starting to lose track of the spoken/written word, maybe it's an age thing?
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006.M42: In the early 42nd Millennium, the fall of Medusa V occurs. The world was mostly evacuated by the Imperum of Man whilst a warp storm engulfed it... the 24,601st edition of Warhammer is published, ruining Warhammer and The Empire forever... ::heretic::
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006.M42: In the early 42nd Millennium, the fall of Medusa V occurs. The world was mostly evacuated by the Imperum of Man whilst a warp storm engulfed it... the 24,601st edition of Warhammer is published, ruining Warhammer and The Empire forever... ::heretic::
In fact, there is only one next entry:
2014: The Empire and WFB WAS ruined forever.
(I bumped into this again by chance, and thought the list warrants its proper conclusion).
I came to bury Sigmar, not to raise him....
And now we have the Age of Shitmar.
That was you justify new character models and rules, various new units,
That was you justify new character models and rules, various new units,
I never understood people's objections to the way GW added Demi-gryphons. I thought it was fine how they wrote them in.
its not like the fluff was extensively hammered out years before. It was always written in a way that supported new stuff being written in.
But I do think advancing the story would have been great. Even doing limited releases/campaigns for events in the past story, like the war of the beard.
I never did mind the FLUFF of the Demi-gryphs, I just hated how broken they were on the table and they completely changed how people played Empire.
Well, see, once upon a time there was wonderful a medieval miniatures wargame, by name of Chainmail. Not nearly as complex as some of the other historical war games on the market, but not as dumbed down simplitisc as some others. Then Gary Gygax went and ruined it forever with a supplement that added rules for jousting, man-to-man melee, and conducting battles with fantasy creatures... and then a few years later, Gygax and Arneson went and ruined things even more by turning it into Dungeons & Dragons.Chainmail was co-written by Gary Gygax and Jeff Perrin, both member of Tactical Studies Research (TSR) group. Gary lived in Lake Geneva WI, and Jeff lived in Rockford Illinois. I watched Gary and his daughters write corrections in the first D&D books in pencil on their dining room table. Those were good times. steveb
And yes, I do know people still bitter about this... :roll:
Chainmail was co-written by Gary Gygax and Jeff Perrin, both member of Tactical Studies Research (TSR) group. Gary lived in Lake Geneva WI, and Jeff lived in Rockford Illinois. I watched Gary and his daughters write corrections in the first D&D books in pencil on their dining room table. Those were good times. steveb